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good to know. I must say (again, sorry..) that looked right now into some pre-made shaders for other renderers, all are categorized by “metal”, “glass”, “liquid” etc. – couldn’t find any weird names like “oren-nayar”… and all are made with easy-to-change bump attributes or textures. I know I’m annoying but it’s for a good cause 😉

edit-ok suddenly I recall seeing “Oren-Nayar” about 15 years ago in Turtle render !